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Archetypes

Re: Archetypes

Postby Mike Natale » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:47 pm

I know the answer to 3 is no, The challenges do not have to be to the death.
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Re: Archetypes

Postby Mike Natale » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:53 pm

Also about the Xenos challenges. It says that you have to respond to the sense call and issue the challenge. If it's nigh time or in some other situation where you can't see who said yes how are you supposed to complete the challenge? I know it says to look for each other, but how are you supposed to tell? Wouldn't it be easier to split the sense and challenge mechanic into separate things to essentially stop what would otherwise be a ton of confusion.
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Re: Archetypes

Postby Eden Jones » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:58 pm

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Re: Archetypes

Postby Jacob » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:09 pm

Recall that we are using the Accelerant core rules. As such, we have a defined list of mechanics to work with. Using a "By My Voice, Expose" effect is simple and makes sense. The issue is that "Frenzy" is the closest call to the effect we want, and it's a generally targeted effect--inappropriate for this circumstance. That means that an Inflict call is the best we can hope for--and we have to define that ahead of time for everybody who might need to know what it means.

With all that in mind, all we can really do is structure it as best we can and let you guys sort it out RP wise. The *intent* is for duels to occur, with people spending Sanity to resist the "Frenzy" aspect when they don't want to deal with it. I do not believe we can enforce that mechanically, however, without adding a whole new layer of "By Your Name, Inflict Duel With (Specific PC)" or something equally complicated.
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Re: Archetypes

Postby Steve » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:54 pm

If someone calls "By My Voice, Expose Xenos", and I want to use sanity to resist the challange, but there are 4 Xenos in the area who each call "By My Voice, Inflict Challenge to Xenos", would I need to spend 4 sanity to resist it?
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Re: Archetypes

Postby ken » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:59 pm

So, yeah, the general feel of it is: We want someone who issues a challenge to basically incite the other Strain 117s into a grand melee duel, keeping in mind that they can chose to spend sanity (and if they're at 1 sanity, go into their derangement) to avoid it. So, really, you don't NEED to respond to the challenge as a player... as long as you accept the consequences.

And, you spend 1 sanity for each call. If someone else decides to respond to the challenge with a challenge, that's 2. But, no, no matter how many are present, the spend is in response to avoiding the challenge.

The other thing is: The challenge only makes you fight. Mike is correct... We don't force you to suck someone's soul out (which is what you do with the annihilation call). That is all on your PCs conscience. And, remember: Dark games are all about consequence. Those who seek power through murder and death often are marked and will eventually reap what they sow.

Ominous enough?

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Re: Archetypes

Postby Jacob » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:01 pm

You would have had to, but (though I had thought of that I flubbed the wording) I fixed it. 1 Sanity = Resist any number of challenges until your next reset.
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Re: Archetypes

Postby Mike Natale » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:23 pm

Does spending the point of sanity also stop the other Xenos from wanting to beat the crap out of you? You still have to answer the sense initially correct?
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Re: Archetypes

Postby Jacob » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:26 pm

As stated in the skill, you still have to respond to the Expose effect, and now you're a thinking rational being facing a crazed would-be cannibal. Good luck.
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Re: Archetypes

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