Heal vs Cure

[redraverfae]

If someone (not necessarily Staff) could walk me through or point me to some good Accellerant Core Rules links regarding Heal vs Cure and the differences between them, and the OR ones as well, that would be awesome; because I think I may had been inadvertently been cheating all weekend by using the wrong word and while PCs might feel awesome for being fixed up, I'd rather not continue the trend of confusion on my end.

[Deeg]

::tears the ticker tape from the internet crawl report::

Descriptions taken from the more-or-less official Accelerant rules found in Madrigal's rulebook http://www.accelerantgames.com/madrigal ... %204.2.pdf

TLDR;
Heal restores vitality
Cure removes effects

Heal...
Beneficial Effect
This effect restores one point of Vitality. If the effect is followed by a number, then it restores Vitality equal to the indicated number. Otherwise it restores one point. If you are unconscious with no Vitality then healing will restore one or more Vitality points and you will wake immediately unless some other effect is preventing you from doing so.

Cure, Remove...
Beneficial Effect (Cure only)
The Cure effect removes effects on the target. A Cure [Effect] will remove all instances of that specific effect. A Cure [Trait] will remove every active effect with the appropriate trait except Imbue and Inflict unless the Imbue or Inflict card specifically says otherwise. Cure will never restore Vitality. Cure is a beneficial effect. Travis, for example, has been affected by the following attacks: Slow by Disease, Slow by Will, and Drain by Will. A Cure Slow will remove both the Slow by Disease and the Slow by Will since they are both Slow effects. A Cure Will would remove both the Slow by Will and the Drain by Will since they both have the Will trait. If a "Cure Maim" effect references a specific limb, the effect will only remove Maim effects on that limb. If the Cure Maim effect does not specify a limb, it will cure all Maim effects active upon the target. If an ability or skill allows you to use the "Cure Maim" effect on a specific limb, you cannot use that ability as a general "Cure Maim"effect. A "Cure Death" effect will restore a dead target to life and leave them with 1 Vitality unless that target has transformed to a Spirit of the dead. Once a character has transformed to a Spirit of the dead, only the rare "Cure Death to Spirit"effect can restore them to life, and only if it is used before the Spirit reaches its destination. A "Cure [Trait Name] Trait" effect will remove a trait given to you by an Inflict, Imbue, or other effect that is temporary. It has no effect on a permanent trait granted by race, skill, or the like. Remove is used to simulate dispels or forced removal of effects. Remove works just like Cure except it is not a beneficial effect. This has several side effects. Where Cure can be touch cast, Remove cannot be touch cast. Where Cure can be refused because it is beneficial, Remove cannot be refused. Where Cure will not interrupt activity time, Remove will interrupt activity time. Where Cure is not negated by and does not consume Shield, Elude and Guard defenses, Remove will be stopped by and consume Shield, Elude, and Guard. Otherwise Remove works like Cure.

[redraverfae]

Okay, I can dig that. Concerning this, then:

Take Two and Call Me In the Morning: Calling you "the Candyman" is probably a bit of a misnomer. Probably. The pharmacist keeps some useful medications on them and may spend AA to touchcast "Cure Agony by Poison," "Cure Slow by Poison," "Cure Weakness by Poison," "Cure Poison by Poison," or "Heal by Poison."


^ So I can both Cure and Heal via Poison? Are there lots of skills across the board (not just Pharm) that can both Cure AND/OR Heal by X?

[Deeg]

The ones I can find that do both Heal and Cure in some form are:

Avatar: "Heal 2 by Code" or "Cure Maim by Code."
Basic Script: "Cure Agony by Poison," "Cure Slow by Poison," "Cure Weakness by Poison," "Cure Poison by Poison," or "Heal by Poison."
Percussive Maintenance: "Cure Maim to Animate by Repair" or "Heal to Animate by Repair."
Regeneration: "Heal 2 to Self," "Cure Maim to Self"
Repair: "Cure Maim to Animate by Repair" or "Heal to Animate by Repair."
Strict Diet: "Heal 2 to Self," "Cure Maim to Self,"
Take Two and Call Me in the Morning: "Cure Agony by Poison," "Cure Slow by Poison," "Cure Weakness by Poison," "Cure Poison by Poison," or "Heal by Poison."
The Howling: "By My Voice, Heal and Cure Fear to (Pack Trait)."

But those are just our game. No idea what the occurrence rate is outside that