Rules Questions

Re: Rules Questions

Postby MrWalrus » Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:50 am

If you shoot a firearm and miss, are the attribute(s) used expended?

Per the core rules:
[quote]Skills and abilities that allow you to use called missile attacks are only used up, as a default, if the attack strikes a legal target area and the recipient acknowledges the hit by role playing the effect or calling out a defense to negate the attack. The missile attack is not used up if the attack misses or the target blocks the attack with a weapon or a shield.
[/quote]

It sounds as though the answer is 'no', as all firearm shots are 'called missile attacks'. On the other hand, the Cyborg skill 'Targetting Matrix' reads (in part):

[quote]You may spend F to "recoup" attributes spent on a ranged attack that physically misses. This cannot be used on attacks that physically strike a target but are negated by a called defense. [/quote]

Which implies that the default is that shots which physically miss expend your attributes because that's what you get for being a bad shot.
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Re: Rules Questions

Postby Jacob » Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:06 pm

On page <spaces on citation> of the OR rulebook it says that darts are essentially treated like packets--they blow through physical shields, count as hits if they hit weapons, etc. As such, if the projectile physically leaves the gun (even in a woefully inadequate manner), the attribute is considered spent regardless of whether it hits or not.

"Missiles" as listed in the core book generally refers to Arrows and Thrown Weapons.
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Re: Rules Questions

Postby Coco » Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:53 pm

[quote="Jacob the GM"]On page <spaces on citation> of the OR rulebook it says that darts are essentially treated like packets...[/quote]

I'm not finding it directly spelled out in our rulebook either, so we'll make sure we put it easily findable under the Firearms section in the Final Release! One of those, "Man, we could have sworn it was in there..." things.

Either way, we have albeit indirectly addressed this before earlier in this thread (fourth post down on this page): viewtopic.php?f=12&t=33&p=1247 Might be relevant to look at for you just for some extra info.

Protip: I've found it incredibly handy to use the "search in this forum" function for keywords sometimes to see if we've talked about something before. :)
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Re: Rules Questions

Postby Clockwork » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:45 pm

Question from a maybe soon player,

the gunslinger ability of Quick draw, "Once per Session you may call “By My Voice,
Short Paralyze by Speed and Short Root to Self.” Until you rest off
the Root, the only skills you may use are those related to shooting
firearms (E.g. Use Handgun, Marksmanship, Called Shot, etc.).
Basically, you can shoot. You cannot move around, you cannot
use called defenses, you cannot heal, etc. But you can shoot. A
lot."

this seems like a big limitation. what exactly is the benefit? is this implying that shooting no longer requires a stat or firearms like stats?
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Re: Rules Questions

Postby Tesla » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:23 pm

The important part is the short paralyze by speed, "By my voice". It basically paralyzes everyone in place that hears it.
Then you get to shoot standing targets. The short root on self is to keep people from going melee. It's meant as a Matrix type bullet time, when you move so fast everyone else seems to be standing still
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Re: Rules Questions

Postby KyleDarklighter » Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:47 am

I have been considering PCing next year & had a couple of questions. I am likely going to play a Bound/ Soldier or perhaps a Protean/ Soldier. If I go with Bound is it possible to use a color other than red for the make-up/ prosthetic? I ask mainly because I have a set or pointed ears, forehead piece with horns, wings & demonic tail in Blue already. I'd hate to have to buy & remake all of those items. 2nd, you state there are no battery op Nerf guns allowed but also have the Rayven listed as an exceptable Nerf blaster. Is the Rayven an exception to the rule since it's semi auto only? Lastly the Viral weaponry ranged rep for the Protean. Since it is required to be boffersafe but not used as a striking weapon does it qualify as a Claw buckler? Thanks.

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Re: Rules Questions

Postby Jacob » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:33 pm

Hello, Garrett and welcome aboard!

To answer your questions:

1) We'd have to see the gear you're talking about (photos are your friend) before making a binding decision. Generally, though, and to the chagrin of colorblind larpers everywhere, color often makes a difference in this sort of thing. Red veins? Probably Protean. Green veins? Probably Rappaccinian. So blue demon...? We'd have to see.

2) The Rayven is a mistaken listing. And for anyone reading this: no, the Magnus is not to be used by PCs as a standard pistol.

3) A ranged viral weapon does not count as a buckler. [i]At present[/i] you may block with it as a normal claw, but it would still count as a target if struck by appropriate effects.

Does that answer your question?
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Re: Rules Questions

Postby KyleDarklighter » Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:08 pm

The 1st 2 yes but the 3rd is a bit misleading. Being able to block with a natural weapon but not strike & still call it a claw weapon could lead to confusion. You may want to add the explanation that it works like a bow rep more than a claw. HMM bow shaped Viral ranged rep. That could work.

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Re: Rules Questions

Postby Jacob » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:27 pm

Really? Let me ping the Wizzzzard.
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Re: Rules Questions

Postby Madrigus » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:23 am

[quote="Jacob"]
1) We'd have to see the gear you're talking about (photos are your friend) before making a binding decision. Generally, though, and to the chagrin of colorblind larpers everywhere, color often makes a difference in this sort of thing. Red veins? Probably Protean. Green veins? Probably Rappaccinian. So blue demon...? We'd have to see.[/quote]

So unless otherwise passed by staff: demons have red skin?
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